Comments on: Tilopa’s Open Sesame http://radiofreeshambhala.org/2008/07/tilopas-open-sesame/ Think Bigger! Sat, 19 May 2012 00:04:23 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: Mark Szpakowski http://radiofreeshambhala.org/2008/07/tilopas-open-sesame/comment-page-1/#comment-808 Mark Szpakowski Sat, 21 Feb 2009 05:27:57 +0000 http://radiofreeshambhala.org/?p=79#comment-808 The Chronicles site pointed to a Kagyü Monlam page on HH Karmapa XVII commenting on the <a href="http://www.kagyumonlam.org/English/News/Report/Report_20090109_2.html" rel="nofollow">Kagyü Lineage Prayer</a> : <i>Great Vajradhara, Telo, Naro...</i> <br /> <blockquote> His Holiness said that the great blessings of the lineage are still warm, they are hot.</blockquote> The Chronicles site pointed to a Kagyü Monlam page on HH Karmapa XVII commenting on the Kagyü Lineage Prayer : Great Vajradhara, Telo, Naro…

His Holiness said that the great blessings of the lineage are still warm, they are hot.

]]> By: Mark Szpakowski http://radiofreeshambhala.org/2008/07/tilopas-open-sesame/comment-page-1/#comment-158 Mark Szpakowski Sun, 28 Sep 2008 19:47:08 +0000 http://radiofreeshambhala.org/?p=79#comment-158 Hi Madeline! Hmm, well Darima seems to have had an effect on more than just Tilopa. She and <a href="http://www.exoticindiaart.com/product/WH79/" target="new" rel="nofollow">her daughter</a> ("whose charming face, seductive gait, well-developed hips and nubile breasts caused even the sun to halt in its tracks") were intimately involved with Ghantapa's realization. Re Tilopa, the <a href="http://www.kagyuoffice.org/kagyulineage.tilopa.htm" target="new" rel="nofollow">Kagyu site</a> says: <blockquote> [Tilopa] also worked at a brothel for Dharima, a prostitute, in Bengal, as instructed by his guru Matangi. He attained great mahamudra realization through practicing in this situation. </blockquote> Maybe courtesan is a better word? But madame, hostess of the feminine principle that blows away academic and administrative forms, is fine by me :-) Hi Madeline! Hmm, well Darima seems to have had an effect on more than just Tilopa. She and her daughter (“whose charming face, seductive gait, well-developed hips and nubile breasts caused even the sun to halt in its tracks”) were intimately involved with Ghantapa’s realization. Re Tilopa, the Kagyu site says:

[Tilopa] also worked at a brothel for Dharima, a prostitute, in Bengal, as instructed by his guru Matangi. He attained great mahamudra realization through practicing in this situation.

Maybe courtesan is a better word? But madame, hostess of the feminine principle that blows away academic and administrative forms, is fine by me :-)

]]> By: madeline schreiber http://radiofreeshambhala.org/2008/07/tilopas-open-sesame/comment-page-1/#comment-157 madeline schreiber Sun, 28 Sep 2008 17:55:58 +0000 http://radiofreeshambhala.org/?p=79#comment-157 I take issue with designating the Madam Darima, for whom Tilopa worked as a pimp and bouncer, as a prostitute. As the Madam of her own establishment, she was certainly a business woman. This does not mean that she was also a working prostitute. As a successful Madam, she may never have turned a trick in her life. Until we know for sure, we should respectfully refer to her as a Madam, not as a prostitute. I take issue with designating the Madam Darima, for whom Tilopa worked as a pimp and bouncer, as a prostitute. As the Madam of her own establishment, she was certainly a business woman. This does not mean that she was also a working prostitute. As a successful Madam, she may never have turned a trick in her life. Until we know for sure, we should respectfully refer to her as a Madam, not as a prostitute.

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